Garden User <b>uyjulian</b> Stop removing files, immediately!!!

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2014, February 12 - 8:23pm

MikeTomTom

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Garden User <b>uyjulian</b> Stop removing files, immediately!!!

uyjulian. Please don't remove files until you know what you are doing.

You have been removing files because you think that they are unavailable when they are not unavailable!

Fresh uploads never become immediately available from the main DL page. Its up to an Admin to manually activate the link. This can take a week or so before they become available from a main DL in a page.

Please stop destroying links that are pending activation. The uploaders, including myself now have to re-upload. This costs us time and money for bandwidth.

Please read your login page for further comments.

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2014, February 12 - 8:39pm

macjames

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My friend, no matter that you posted this 14 minutes ago, pagemaker 6.5 was affected 3 minutes ago. He's onto the Adobe products right now it seems

2014, February 12 - 9:16pm

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MikeTomTom

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He's having a ball, it seems

Can only hope he'll use the tracker page soon and get a clue.

Looks as tho' he's systematically going through the "A's" & heading for the "B's"... I see he's also removed upload links made by Dax & IIGS_User.

2014, February 13 - 12:01am

macjames

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OK while some links were really dead, this recent event left me thinking of something... the value of some of the broken links. For example, Framemaker. One of the broken links was to a site that contained a mirror of free templates once available in adobe's site. I searched some of those templates in the wayback machine and they are available there. Now that the broken link is removed, nobody visiting the framemaker page would know that there were free templates, unless you have the curiosity of checking the past revisions of the page. I adopted the policy that unless i am uploading the same or a better file that was on a broken link, i leave the broken link there. I know that sometimes is irritating to find a broken link here and there, but really, what's worst, removing the link or leaving it there? I would like to hear some opinions.

2014, February 13 - 2:21am

mrdav

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I agree with you macjames that most broken links should be just left there unless you are replacing with a working link. Even the existence of a broken link is an alert to those interested that there is information, previously available, that needs replacing. Having said that, there probably are exceptions, but I think one should be fairly conservative about this.

2014, February 13 - 5:15pm

IIGS_User

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Especially, the "The specified key does not exist." means something web site related, but the file *is* there. There are just too much game entries, if I understand correctly.

2014, February 13 - 5:21pm

IIGS_User

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The comments above are true, just a comment like "Reupload, anyone?" is fine enough to get the point.

2014, February 13 - 7:35pm

macjames

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Not to be picky, but now the recent posts are being buried with these massive reports of broken links on each download page. Didn´t or don´t we have a page to report broken links?

2014, February 13 - 9:42pm

mrdav

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Note to uyjulian: If you plan to check every page for broken links, I suggest that you make a list and post that. That way you do not make a new entry on every page which brings them all to the front, burying the usual recent posts.

2014, February 13 - 10:03pm

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uyjulian

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Sorry, I was being dumb e_e

I don't delete links anymore.

2014, February 13 - 11:23pm

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MikeTomTom

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@uyjulian: Thank you.

I don't think it hurts to remove dead MediaFire links - as long as you put a notice there, informing others which & what the link was for & why you've removed it, as these are unrecoverable. Its then up-to whoever uploaded the file to MediaFire to do something about it, or for someone who managed to get a copy before the link died, to replace it somehow.

Remember tho' its an all volunteer effort and people who do upload are giving their time freely.

2014, February 14 - 9:24pm

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MikeTomTom

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@uyjulian:

Please stop removing links.
You're now removing internal links from the Edit page, beginning "sites/macintoshgarden.org/files/apps/"...

Do not touch those links at all. They cannot be viewed from an apps main viewing page, only from the Edit page - so they are not in general view.

Those internal macintosh garden links, even tho they may no longer function, can be used to restore amazonaws links should those main links on a viewing page fail.

An admin is likely going to have to restore every page you have edited. So please stop wasting everybody's time.

2014, February 14 - 9:13am

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Kitchen2010

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How about setting up a separate central thread (sticky thread ?) to report broken, non-working links ?
That would be nicer not to have the real new entries getting buried under a huge amount of non-sense change reports nearly everyday on the tracker. A separate single page as a TODO-list could be also be more handy for coordination of re-uploads.

2014, February 14 - 10:55am

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SwedeBear

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Is it possible to implement a sort 'Dead Link'/'Report' button on the pages? I'm not up to what can be done with MG nowadays.
As a variant if a comment on each page could be sticky with a link to the Report topic.

2014, February 14 - 6:02pm

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macjames

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OK this is getting tiresome. This guy can't take a hint or english is not his native language.

2014, February 15 - 12:22am

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mrdav

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uyjulian: Some of the changes you are making here amount to vandalism. You must stop!

2014, February 15 - 12:31am

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Gary

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So dump this guy's account already!