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Ogre, by Origin Systems (1986)

I don't suppose anyone out there would have a Macintosh copy of this great game? Been a fan of the tabletop version for many a year, and remember the computer version rather fondly.

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http://www.grenier-du-mac.net/fiches/ogre.html

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Ahh, thank you!

Sadly, though, the website is right. Both of the disk images are great, but unusable in Mini vMac.

Is there no way to actually run this software?

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A recall list of my mine thinks that it is compatible. I am still waiting for my friend in Canada of his opinion since he is really a big fan of it. He has more ideas rather than me.

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LOL! Wat?

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> Both of the disk images are great, but unusable in Mini vMac.

How far did you get with this? I needed to convert these image files to ".hfv" so I could mount them in MinivMac. After that they mounted OK, however. I got real issues trying to run the program - Bad F-line Instruction errors and total crashing of MinivMac afterwards. Both 400k and 800k image files contain a Mac System folder but neither will boot minivMac AFAICT. Mounting these image files as secondary disks in MinivMac and attempting to run the program gets the "Bad F-Line Instruction" errors.

Perhaps my MinivMac is running too new an OS for this game (Mac OS 7.1.1).

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The images work just fine for me, sort of.

If I boot up vMac with a virtual hard drive running 6.0.8, both images will mount up just fine. All the files are there, the icons look good, etc. Of course, when I try to run the application it becomes "Sorry, a system error has occurred" time. Bad stuff.

Technically speaking, I can get both images to boot vMac from scratch. The 400k image will get to the OGRE splash screen and then "sorry screen" me. The 800k image will actually boot past the splash screen all the way into a working system. When I try to run the application, however, it's "sorry screen" time yet again.

I'm really not sure why neither of those images refuse to boot Mini vMac for you. What version of Mini vMac are you running?

A Quick Note: For those of you who don't speak French, the download website MCP linked for this software has a caveat at the bottom about neither image being usable in Mini vMac. AFAICT, they're absolutely right. I'd like to know why, and what we can do to fix this.

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> A Quick Note: For those of you who don't speak French, the download website
> MCP linked for this software has a caveat at the bottom about neither image
> being usable in Mini vMac.

Ahhh... Thanks for that. I'm about to concur with this finding too.

My MinivMac is the stable version 3.1.3 running on Windows XP. I have since installed Mac OS SSW 5.1 onto MinivMac. This System works fine on MinivMac. However, when attempting to load OGRE it crashes MinivMac in a not very nice manner Wink

I haven't been able to run this game on MinivMac on SSW 5.1 thru SSW 7.1.1 so far.

Perhaps of note, when converting the floppy disk images to .hfv there were checksum errors in the original images. i.e. in the originals, once unstuffed, they have a checksum that is visible when you do a "Get info" on the unstuffed image file. This (supposed) checksum is at odds with the actual checksum of the file and if you use a program such as "Disk Copy 6.x" on a Classic Mac system, then try and convert the image to another format. - It won't be able to complete this because the checksums don't match. To get Disk Copy 6.x to complete any conversion on these image files you have to turn Disk Copy 6.x's checksumming off.

Its possible that these image files from the French site are suss to begin with. It would be good to try these files from another source.

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I have to agree with the possibility of a bad source.

The question remains as to where another source would be? I'm worried any other source (which might not exist, we're dealing in rare stuff here) would have the same blown images that the French site has.

Or this is a Mini vMac issue...

At any rate, finding another source is going to be tricky unless someone steps up to help us. Even deep digging with a search engine is difficult at best, as there exists a modern graphics engine program by the same name. Ugh.

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Ugh, nevermind.

Apparently even if someone can help, it'll be for naught. EA seems to be a little upset about people hosting copies of decades old software they have no intention of ever making available again.

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It boots and works in MESS.