So I am trying to create disc images of some of my old games. I am coming across problems with discs that are hybrid Mac/PC and have an audio track (like Warcraft and Warcraft 2.) I have tried Disk Utility, which will only copy the Mac session, I have tried Burn, which will only copy one session of my choosing, and Toast 8, which will only copy the PC/Mac sessions. Toast says that it is copying the Audio session. It calls the image Audio CD, Warcraft CD.toast by default. The thing is that the Audio CD isn't copied. It isn't mounted, and it doesn't exist if the image is burned. Is there any perfect method for copying discs? Maybe a better version of Toast?
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2010, August 24 - 3:02pm
#1
Creating a CD Image
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2010, August 24 - 3:08pm
#2
In the Wolfpack game comments, I got this hint:
If you want a copy of the whole CD (PC partition included) just select the CD/DVD drive rather than the volume.
I believe it will throw out the Audio session as well, but I've to check this statement first.
2010, August 24 - 3:42pm
#3
I doubt CD/DVD master would preserve the audio tracks. The only reliable way to image discs containing them is as bin/cue (or bin/toc).
2010, August 24 - 3:10pm
#4
There is a separate forum thread about the audio partition of a CD:
Preserving the Audio Partition of a CD
2010, August 24 - 3:44pm
#5
Doesn't work for the rest of use either. So you're not doing anything wrong, and there's no easy way to get it to work. Some of us are impressed that you're making all this effort.
What we've done up to now is to create the Mac/PC image as a .toast image, which you seem to be having no issues with.
Then click on the Audio tab in Toast, and drag the mounted "Audio CD" to the Toast window, it'll process the audio trakcs and you'll end up with a list of AIFF tracks, starting at track 2 of course (track 1 is the Mac/PC data part you saved in the .toast).
Then either "Save As Disc Image ..." creating a .Sd2f file, or "Save As Bin/Cue ..." creating .bin, .cue and .cdt files.
Compress and upload along with the (optionally compressed) .toast image file and leave the hard work of re-creating the "mixed-mode" CD to the downloaders. It's relatively easy to do with Toast.
Several games have already had this treatment, Age of Empires, Sam & Max Hit The Road, some of the Civilization titles, Shattered Steel, etc.
2010, August 24 - 4:00pm
#6
If you're not on an english Mac OS X system, the Audio CD and its tracks may have localized names.
I'm not sure, but I would make sure the Audio CD image created is based on its english titles (CD name: "Audio CD", titles name, I think, is "2 Audio Track".
2010, August 24 - 5:10pm
#7
Thanks for the explanation, I too was wondering how to rip a Mac/Audio CD (Civ II). A .Sd2f file is lossless I presume then?
It'd be great if we had a wiki or expanded the guide section with this information so it's easily accessible.
2010, August 24 - 6:39pm
#8
Alright thanks for the info. Another thing that I found is that NTI DragonBurn is completely capable of creating images that contain absolutely everything: the audio, mac, and pc volumes, but the file format .ncd is incompatible with basically everything. If anyone knows how to convert it, that would make this much simpler I think.
2010, August 24 - 6:56pm
#9
Try SimplyBurns. It will make a bin/toc image that also contains all the tracks. Can be burned on anything except Classic MacOS.