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2013, September 8 - 5:44am

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Help playing on old iMac

Hello! I am having difficulties playing any software here on my Bondi Blue G3 iMac. I am downloading these files on a Mac OS X computer and burning a CD to use on my iMac ( Mac OS 8.5 ). However whenever I burn a CD with a game on it and put it in my iMac G3 it says the disk is not readable by that computer! WTF! If anyone has any ideas, please feel free to reply!
Specs:
iMac G3 Bondi Blue ( 233 MHz; Mac OS 8.5 )
PowerMac G4 Quicksilver ( 733 MHz; Mac OS X 10.3 & 10.5.8 )

(NOTE: the PowerMac G4 is the computer I am burning the disks with, I do not wish to play these games on my G4)

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2013, September 8 - 8:08am

bertyboy

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Just three questions I hope that you can answer:
Are you using CD-R ? or CD-RW ?
Are you burning as HFS Standard ? or HFS Extended ? Put the CD back into the G4, Get Info on the mounted disk, there's a Format: property in OSX 10.5.
Is the CD-ROM drive in your iMac G3 operational ? I had one of these.

2013, September 8 - 10:49pm

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I have been using CD-R's and to my know large the iMac has an operational optical drive. And I am 90% sure that its HFS Standard

Thanks

2013, September 9 - 6:20am

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And I am 90% sure that its HFS Standard

Please check, I told you how to check in my first reply.

to my know large the iMac has an operational optical drive

Again, please check. Does ANY cd-rom work in the iMac G3 ?

2013, September 10 - 2:51am

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My G4 says that the format is Mac OS Extended. I am positive the G3 drive works as it reads Mac OS 8.5 CD and also music CD's

2013, September 8 - 9:45am

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Would like to second bertyboy.
My Bondi blue´s could only read plain CD-Rs with the internal drive, results may differ with newer USB opticals. One of my internal drives became flaky too. Hit and miss, whether it would read the CD or not.

It might be easier to move files over a ethernet patch cable. I think 10.3 could run the old AppleTalk. Should not be too hard to set up one of your Macs as server.

2013, September 8 - 10:39am

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3rd'd. CD incompatibility with CD drive in iMac. Go AppleTalk over TCP/IP - OS x 10.3 to Mac OS 8.5.

Better tho' IMHO would be a bootable Mac OS 9.x partition on the QS G4 and brain-dead easy file transfers between the iMac & G4 (AppleTalk over TCP/IP ethernet).

2013, September 8 - 10:51pm

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How would I go about setting up Apple Talk between 10.3 and 8.5?

2013, September 8 - 6:38pm

bertyboy

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A fourth option could just be flaky burns. Try birning the discs on the G4 at a lower speed, down to 2x or 4x.

I've also got something about 650MB CD-R vs. 700MB CD-R in the back of my mind, but I may be confusing that with the very earliest CD drives on the 68k Macs.

2013, September 8 - 11:15pm

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This?
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/772854?start=0&tstart=0

If you don´t mind spending another CD-R you could try one in ISO 9660 format to rule out any mistakes when toasting the CD.

2013, September 9 - 1:11am

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How would I go about burning in that format?

2013, September 10 - 6:30am

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Excellent. The CD's should be burned in Mac OS Standard format. If you're using Toast, it is an option on the pane on the left. Mac OS 8.1 should be enough to read Mac OS Extended, so not sure why it's an issue, but if you burn a CD in Standard format and test it, we;ll know for sure if it is the cause.

2013, September 11 - 2:55am

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I don't see where it allowed me to select the format to burn it in.

2013, September 11 - 8:15am

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bertyboy

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Open Preferences, In the General tab should be an option to "Show Legacy formats and settings", select it.

2013, September 11 - 10:58pm

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Unfortunately, this did not seem to work

2013, September 12 - 12:07am

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What does that mean ? What didn't work ?

Shall we start with the basics ?
which version of Toast do you use to burn the CD's on the G4 ?

2013, September 14 - 4:18am

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I'm just using the built in Burn in OS X. Or Disk Utility

2013, September 12 - 3:38pm

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Open Preferences, In the General tab should be an option to "Show Legacy formats and settings", select it.

For personal interest I've to ask: Is this also valid for Toast 11?

2013, September 14 - 9:08am

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bertyboy

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@IIGS_User, no idea. HFS Standard hasn't been supported for many Mac OS versions.

Burning discs from here in OSX 10.5 Disk Utility, rather than Toast, then I'm at a loss to even begin to know what to ask the OP. The disks may be written as anything, maybe HFS Extended (Journaled). It's unusual for CD-R media, but if you insert a disc you have burned, and perform Get Info (like you did before), under Format: does it say "Mac OS Extended" or "Mac OS Extended (Journaled)" ?

Someone else will have to come up with suggestions, but NOT using Toast is playing against loaded dice.

2013, September 15 - 9:20pm

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Well it's just Mac OS Extended, where could I download a compatible version of toast?

2013, September 16 - 4:21am

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MikeTomTom

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"Toast 5 Titanium" is compatible with Mac OS X 10.4.11 and earlier, even some classic OS's. Its here at the MG, look in the Apps section under "T"

2013, November 21 - 8:24am

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I used to have a similar problem: I solved it by cleaning the CD drive with a CD Lens cleaner.

2013, November 29 - 4:52am

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Read my post: http://macintoshgarden.org/forum/using-abandonware-a-real-mac

It may help.

2014, January 6 - 5:52am

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Do you have a version of Toast installed?
Toast 5.2.3 runs on everything from MacOS 8.6 to 10.4
If yes and you have a .toast file all you need to do is drop the file on Toast and press the burn button.
Or you can open Toast, go to the copy window and select the .toast file manually.
The same is true if the file in question is a .iso

If you have a .sit file that is a compressed format which must be expanded with Stuffit Expander first.

If you just want to transfer files select the DATA option in Toast and "Mac CD only" and create a new CD to burn.