Need to restore an old copy of McVegas

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2014, May 23 - 9:43pm

ramon

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Need to restore an old copy of McVegas

Hello, nice project you all have here. I need some help... I have an old MacVegas floppy Disk that used to work with my Macintosh 512K. THe game is awesome and up until two months or so ago, it was working fine until my father accidentaly pressed the reformat button (instead of the eject button) on the computer. When I saw this, I immidettely ejected the disk but I think the computer started to do the formating and now I cannot get the disk to work again. I believe most of the data is still on the disk and there may be an opportunity to recover it... Can you offer some guidance on to what could I do to get this game back to work again on my Mac512?

Thank you,

Ramon.

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2014, May 23 - 10:02pm

MikeTomTom

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Floppy media gone bad is likely to be unrecoverable. You would probably be better off by replacing your loss with a disk image back-up.

If you don't have a back-up, then you might wish to look at the Mac Vegas page here at the Garden. There is an archived disk image of the game there.

2014, May 24 - 1:03am

Balrog

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Formatting overwrites the disk, so there's not much you can do. Even though only the first few tracks are probably wiped, that's enough to render the entire disk useless.

This is why it's a good idea to always write-protect original disk media.

2014, May 24 - 3:30am

ramon

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OK. Is there any way I can get a floppy disk with this game in it from the garden? I am not a computer savy person so when Mike Tom Tom says I can look to get an archive disk image of the game in the garden, does this means that I can somehow find a copy of this game on a floppy disk that I can use in my mac512K?

2014, May 24 - 3:34am

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MikeTomTom

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I placed a direct link to the Mac Vegas page in my previous post, Ramon. And yes, it looks as tho' there is a disk image of the original game there, so you may be in luck in restoring your game.

It is a "floppy disk image file", a copy of the original floppy disk saved as an image file. Its been archived with Stuffit, so this needs to be extracted with Stuffit Expander to access the floppy disk image file. Then you will either need to "mount" the image file onto a desktop from a hard drive (or removable media), or write the image file back onto a floppy disk.

2014, May 24 - 3:30am

ramon

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Thank you for your valuable feedback guys!!!

2014, May 29 - 10:13pm

ramon

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Thank you Mike TomTom! At least I know there's a solution to this challenge. So, I am not so much a computer program expert and of course, when you are describing the steps of the solution, I am completely lost in the "how to" achieve this... Do you know if there's anyone in the Macintosh Garden that can produce this task for me as a courtesy or providing a professional service which I would be happy to pay for? The bottom line is that I don't know how to do all that and at the end of the day, I would really like to have the game so my father and I can play with it in my "still working stroing" Mac 512K. Please help!!!
Thank you!!!

2014, May 30 - 10:26am

24bit

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Where in the world are you, ramon?
Preparing a MFS 400k floppy for a Mac 512k is not that hard, if you own another compatible Mac.
http://siber-sonic.com/mac/MFSbootfloppy.html

I gave away my last Mac some time ago, but I´m positive that some member here can help you along, creating that floppy for you and sending it to your place.

Off topic: Why not use MiniVMac meanwhile?
MiniVmac is free and has been ported to many platforms, you could even take your game with you on an Android, WIN-mobile or iDevice. http://minivmac.sourceforge.net/doc/download.html

2014, June 1 - 3:33am

ramon

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Thank you for the advice 24bit! I am in Florida, USA. I have a 2010 I-Mac with no floppy drive capabilities. I also have my old Mac512K which is the one I used to play McVegas... That is why I am not sure how to proceed with the option Mike TomTom suggested.

I guess part of the thrill of playing the game is that I get to play it in a vintage computer (30 yrs old)... That is why I have been trying to get the floppy disk to work again with no success... Do you know anyone in the garden that would/could do this for me?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

An update.. I downloaded the miniVMac and the game and also the Stuffit Expander and had no luck trying to run the game on my Imac (with OS X)... Will continue to try for a solution that involves running the game in the old system.

Thank you for all your help!!!

Ramon

2014, June 1 - 5:10am

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IIGS_User

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An update.. I downloaded the miniVMac and the game and also the Stuffit Expander and had no luck trying to run the game on my Imac

You still need an operating system, preferably Mac OS version 6.

I know, some peoples see the games available here as ROM files, but that's wrong.

2014, June 1 - 2:42pm

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24bit

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From what I gathered, Mac Vegas comes with a patched finder and is bootable on its own.
For running the game on iMac three things are a must:
MiniVMac itself: http://sourceforge.net/projects/minivmac/files/minivmac/3.3.3/minivmac-3...
The matching ROM: http://www.redundantrobot.com/macemulator/vmac.rom.zip
The bootable image: http://macintoshgarden.org/sites/macintoshgarden.org/files/games/Mac_Veg...
All three placed into the same folder should do the trick.
Double click MiniVMac.app and drag Vegas1.3.image onto the MiniVMac window.
Best expand the sit file with The Unarchiver in OSX. http://unarchiver.c3.cx/unarchiver

(I´ll ask a friend in the US, whether he is willing to make the floppy for you, if nobody else chimes in. Untouched 2DD floppies may be rare meanwhile, as we all discarded piles of them ages ago.)

2014, June 2 - 3:21pm

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ramon

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Thank you 24bit. I was finally able to make this game work on my iMac. This is way too cool!!! It works and also looks like the game on the old Mac. One thing, the emulator is not able to replicate is the feeling of playing the game in the old machine... This is why I will still pursue to obtain a copy of the game on floppy disk. Thank you so much!!!

By the way, I believe it was your friend that already contacted me via email to help me with this request. If this is the case, a big THANK YOU is in order... I am so glad I found this place online. Keep up this community and long live vintage computing!!!

2014, June 2 - 8:43pm

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24bit

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De nada Ramon, hope you can figure out the floppy issue with the fellow in Georgia, if it was him.

Nothing can beat the original Mac, you are quite right.
From today´s view, I should have kept my MacII and all Nubus cards, but the internet was not such a big knowledge base for fixing vintage stuff, as it is today. Remember dial up connections...

Nearly all of my apps can be used in emulation - may it be with Fusion_PC, MiniVMac, BasiliskII or SheepShaver.
Therefore I´m quite content with what I got.
Running the MacII on a 7 inch Android tablet is a fair compensation for me.
Reasonably fast too on a quad-core 1.2 GHz ARM instead of the Daystar 68030 upgrade I used to have.