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Vengeful Chip - A video game music collection in FLAC.

I started up this project because this is something that hasn't been done before. The goal of it is to collect as many game soundtracks from as many platforms (Lemmings as an example, we have it's complete soundtrack from 17 different ports), from the common IBM-PC, to the more exotic X68000, from common consoles like SNES to 3DO or PC-Engine.
You can see all the available soundtracks here:

http://vengefulchip.tk

We also have a Macintosh and all the other Apple computers category here: http://vengefulchip.tk/by-system/macintosh-classic-mac-ii/

Also I'm looking for some help, if you have a bit of time, please review this page: http://vengefulchip.tk/want-to-contribute/, I'll be eternally grateful ^^

The most important things I would be looking at the moment is an Hoot expert or someone knowledgeable in it's drivers.
Another thing what I miss is proper hosting and domain (to be able to offer direct download to the soundtracks, so anyone who could spare a VPS, or donate for me to buy one, would be great ^^;

Thanks for your time, and if I posted this in the wrong category on these forums, mods please feel free to move/remove the thread.

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Nice collection and a charming idea. I would love to hear the Amiga soundtrack of e.g. "Shadow Of The Beast" again. I gave away my Amiga stuff ages ago...

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What it needs for recording music from games from original Macintosh?

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@24bit - Will add that game to the queue for you~
Thank you for your kind words too.

@Dimitris1980 - I don't quite understand your question ^^;

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What is required to record sound on an original Macintosh?

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What is required preferably is the original hardware if available, and to record through a line-in cable and an external recorder, or even just a PC with a line-in plug). But emulation should do too, in this case all would be required is a strong enough PC (either Mac or Windows/Linux/Unix/BSD/you-name-it). Even if BasilliskII might have a clunky emulation (which is understandable for the fact that the MacII chip is still proprietary, like in Amiga's "Paula" chip) at this time, I don't think there's a big difference compared to the original.

Most of the recordings I posted are emulated, for the fact that I can't afford to buy original hardware.

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Do you know a good external recorder for Macintosh Performa 6116 or Imac G3?

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Wasn´t there SW to get things out of apps/games on Classic? 'File Juicer' or 'Sound Thief' or something like that… :/ (getting old(er))

Edit: Well, not that fast; it's 'VSE File Pirate' I´m humming about. Remember fiddling about with 'ShadowGate' trying solving the obstructing Sound Format in the game file.
Can be had from here (demo);http://www.tucows.com/preview/207052/VSE-File-Pirate

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@Dimitris1980: I'm not familiar with Macs (never owned one), but I've looked at the specs of the two models you mentioned, and they both seem to have a standard 3.5mm headphone jack slot in the front panel. I'm not sure what machine you currently use (either a PC with a dedicated soundcard or a more recent Mac model) but you can solve this basically by getting a Male-to-Male 3.5mm jack cable (an example here: http://dx.com/p/3-5mm-m-m-audio-jack-connection-cable-3m-33703?item=4), plug one end in the headphone slot on the Mac, and another end in the Line-In slot of your current machine (either PC or Mac or what you use).
Then get Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/, has binaries for many platforms), open it and click on the drop-down menu next to the microphone and in there you should have a "Line-in" choice. Choose that and you can click on the record button and Audacity will start recording the audio signal coming from the Mac.

This is a very cheap method that doesn't require a hardware audio recorder ^^
I might have misunderstood your question though

@SwedeBear: I don't think many games have "accesible" music formats to be able to render them that easily. At least that's the case with the Amiga.

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@andoru: as per Amiga/Lisa/II GS etc I can not tell, but for the Macintosh 68k/PPC the chances to be able to extract media files, as for the 'ShadowGate' game. IIRC you were also able to make this stunt with 'ResEdit' on the condition you knew what you did/recognized file types. Smile

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Can somebody confirm how accurate BasiliskII sound emulation is actually? If it isn't as accurate then there might be no point in extracting the media files themselves. Also, where would you be able to play them back? =)

@Dimitris1980 I noticed in your guestbook is pointing at one of your machines being equipped with a MT-32, that is quite a powerful combination! If you could help with a few recordings I would be eternally grateful! ^^

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For me the Roland MT-32 is the best equipment for music for games (Although i have heard that it was expensive). Lot better than soundblaster and adlib. The problem is that it does not have samples. You cannot hear real sound effects or speech. But the quality of the music is amazing. The dos users were/are lucky because there are lot of games that support Roland. On the macintosh version only some sierra games support it (like Gabriel Knight, King's Quest 5, Space Quest 4, Larry 5, Larry 6 etc.).

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Actually, the Roland MT-32 has a built in DAC chip, just that probably many games donnot feature it. The DOS version of Larry 5, for example has some sound effects in the music. Speaking of which I haven't been able to run Larry 1 Remake / Larry 5 and Larry 6 in BasiliskII. Will you be able to help me with that?

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The media/sound files will be playable or possible to convert with anything capable of sound playing under the same OS versions, like OS 7's own 'Sound Player/Recorder'. And to bring time wise closer many Sound converter reads the old formats and ouputs to more common as AIFF or WAVE fe. HTH Smile

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Which sound players are you referring to?

Also, what does "fe. HTH" stand for?

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The Mentioned player of OS 7 is one and to pick one frome here which also converts file formats;
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/agent-audio where the text suggests one way to modern sound file format. The sound player apps of the recent systems are many and it forms more to a question of 'like' in order to make a pick. The variety of sound apps fromthis site alone can be examined here: http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/music-sound?page=5

As for playing actual sound of games from a certain era best is to start with the 'cleanest' source possible ie the sound file itself and from there take it to the format prefered IMHO.

fe = for example
HTH = Hope This Helps

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Ah, the program's PPC, I can't emulate that =/
Also the other tools you suggested are for more recent Macs, and as I said, I don't own one =P

If there would be any 68k app, I would be able to use it, but regardless, thanks for your tips ^^

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Mac version of Lemmings in FLAC? High five! Most of the time it's just MP3s of the Windows MIDI, so it sounds awful.

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*high five back* Great to see appreciation from people, just wish the whole project would take off and more people would be involved, would speed up things alot.

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Love to give you my FLACs of VVVVVV, but those are copyrighted (but not DRM'd).

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Not sure what that is, but you could send me an e-mail (use the contact for in the site) with a few tracks. In which way is it copyrighted? Is it a recent game?

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It's a soundtrack for a relatively recent PC indie game, which cost $10.

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Oh. Well, I'm mostly interested in chiptunes from games mostly. Chitpunes = music generated through a chip (not the Mac's case as it has a sort of DAC/DSP, but as a few examples: SNES, Amiga, NES, PC-98, X68000 etc., basically any machine that generates music through a chip)

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Finally added the Leisure Suit Larry soundtrack collection. Took me ages to finish it, juggling with other stuff I have to do. It includes all the games in the series (except LSL7, which has digital audio only) and has the soundtracks from all the IBM-PC sound modules they supported and a few extra systems for LSL1EGA. ^^

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Just a quick update, I posted Raptor: Call of the Shadows (sorry, nothing Mac-related for now ^^; ) as a request from a friend a few months ago and fixed some sets. Remember you can always contact me to let me know of any flaws =D
I also started a Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/VengefulChip, for those of you who are too lazy to download the sets or would prefer to listen to them that way =)

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I checked the youtube channel. Great job!!!

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Thanks, also noticed you subscribed =D
So thank you for that too =)

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Sorry for the double post. I uploaded SimCity 2000 MacII soundtrack. I just wanted to ask here if anyone can check it up and see if it sounds accurate to how it would sound on real hardware. Not to say the Mac soundtrack isn't good or that the Basilisk author isn't doing a good job (on the contrary, I think it's awesome!) but it doesn't sound quite right. So I just wanted to make sure. In the case it doesn't I'd rather take it down and ask for someone to record it on real hardware ^^

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Sorry for the triple post XD

Posted two more sets from recorded from real hardware thanks to Stefan from the Vogons forums. Namely they are Lemmings 2 and Cannon Fodder for the Archimedes. Also fixed the MT-32 and GM sets for TIM2.

But as a main update I posted the full soundtrack of The Adventures of Willy Beamish. This one took me a while to finish...
I had to manually edit the FM recordings instead, since I couldn't loop the tracks in the FM player by NRS (Vogons forums). It was quite a hassle, but still better and easier than record in-game. ^^
If you notice anything wrong in the way the songs loop in the FM set, or if you happen to know how the songs are titled please let me know. Also let me know if any tracks in the FM set sound weird or not how they were supposed to (aside from the stereo FM that wasn’t available in-game).

Also, if you want to help and have a MT- or CM- series Roland modules (and some free time =P), I uploaded the SMF and SysEx files - http://vengefulchip.tk/midi/Willy.7z, so you have half of the work done =D
Contact me beforehand though.
Also if there's anyone able to record/extract the Macintosh version, that would be quite awesome too ^^

Props for the Sierra extractor go to tikalat from Vogons forums.

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awesome resource and site! I'm all about this today

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I like the chip music of ZOMBIES ATE MY NEIGHBORS
and DIABLO

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@Macpast: Glad you enjoy it, more to come =D

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Added Puyo Puyo Tsu to the releases with (almost) all it's ports ^^
I'm still having problems with the Windows 95 port of the game, which I can't figure out on which device it was supposed to work. If you have any knowledge of this, or have covers of the game (Win95 port) please let me know!

Oh, and before I forget, I added a GameGear set (http://vengefulchip.tk/puyo-puyo-gamegear/) for the first PuyoPuyo and fixed the SNES (http://vengefulchip.tk/super-puyo-puyo-snes/) set, so re-download it if you had downloaded that set in the past ^^

Sadly still no Macintosh post, although this game has a rare port for it. Seemingly a lot of japanese games have made ports for the Macintosh but none are easily found. If anyone happens to have either PuyoPuyo or Tsu for MacOS, please let me know!

Also, still need help with Willy Beamish if anyone's interested =)

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The SC2K tracks are great! Though I think that the track names for "Happy Land" and "Selfish Citizen" were switched.

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Thanks.
Do you have a list of recordings or rips that have the names switched?

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Been a while, and finally I have something for you Mac fanatics =D
I posted the complete soundtrack of The Secret of Monkey Island, including it's port for Macintosh II.
If any of you guys have any original sound hardware (Amigas, Macs, IBM-PCs with sound extensions/modules, etc.) and some free time to help with some recordings, please let me know!
Also, happy new year! =D

EDIT: Forgot to mention that I also updated the tagging to most of the collection, especially the older stuff I posted.
Fixed the MT-32/CM-32L sets for LSL1VGA, LSL5, LSL6, and with that added some unused/unknown tracks that were present in the game's datafiles.

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The "Keep Tryin' " track on the Macintosh II port of The Incredible Machine 2 was cut off for some strange reason, I fixed it now and I updated the game's set, to please re-download it.

Sadly I don't have any new Macintosh soundtracks to offer you guys =(
But there are some other stuff I posted, especially on the YouTube channel, so check them out if you're interested =D

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Added Loom and all it's ports, including Macintosh! Make sure to give it a try, especially if you like Tchaikovsky's stuff Laughing out loud

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Added the soundtrack for Maniac Mansion, no mac ports for that game unfortunately :/
But it does have a port to Apple II that I also added =D

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Posted Doom and some of it's ports. Unfortunately I couldn't get to add the soundtrack from the Macintosh port as I couldn't get QuickTime to play the midi files properly, they kept playing at uneven tempos, which made it quite annoying. If anyone knows a fix, please let me know. =)

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Added the soundtrack of DinoPark Tycoon (including it's Macintosh II port), here's the playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLg1yjPKxAKFNs24B3AvB2P-nXPBAr8yGn

Also added Shatterhand, this one is not a Mac game, but I thought you guys might be intereste in it: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8bJIJwimSbk&index=6&list=PLg1yjPKxAKFMEC5LaJ...

Also, as an update, I made a twitter account for this project: https://twitter.com/VengefulChip and also made a Reddit community: https://reddit.com/r/VengefulChip/

Feel free to follow/subscribe those! Thanks Smile

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I get this if I go to the website and try to download the files "Sorry, this website / URL has been requested to be blocked from AdF.ly" am I doing something wrong?

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@rob_1: Sorry for the late reply!
No, you aren't. It's probably because you're using an adblocker (and that's very good!), and unfortunately AdFly doesn't allow you to get to the original link that way. So a solution would be to disable the adblocker temporarily, or you can contact me over reddit in a PM so I could give you the direct links.
I'm sorry for this inconvenience, I'll discontinue my use of AdFly in the near future Smile

Also I added another game, and this time it's something for the Macintosh! Laughing out loud
Namely that game is Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge! (Amiga, IBM-PC Speaker, AdLib, CM-32L/MT-32 and Macintosh II)

YouTube Playlist: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6z_IeS6VpGM&index=5&list=PLg1yjPKxAKFNFxbelq...

Downloads: http://vengefulchip.tk/category/by-letter/m/monkey-island-2/

Enjoy! Laughing out loud