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ZTerm on 800k disk please

I need the program ZTerm on a 800k floppy disk. Please make it openable on a Mac SE. If anyone could do this for me, I would really appreciate it. I live in Covington GA 30016. Thanks.
Link to download ZTerm: http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/zterm

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For the ulikely case, that nobody from the US chimes in, I can of course prepare such a disk with my PPC 7100.

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Send your snail mail address to my googlemail account, comrade.
I´ll prepare the disk tonight.

Edit: That 2DD disk is ready for sending right now.
Whats on it: Z-Term 1.0.1, Stuffit Expander 3.5.1 and DiskDup+
So its up to you...

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Thank you, thank you so much!

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Yes, thank you for doing this too, 24bit. Any room on that disk? Or has it been sent by now? Small point, Stuffit Lite 3.6 would give MacBinary, HQX, UnPack, PKG & Compact Pro Translators. I don't think Stuffit Expander by itself will have these (unless DropStuff* is also installed). Stuffit Lite 3.6 is System 6 compatible, both for stuffing and unpacking. Its installer at 640K wouldn't leave too much room on an 800k disk though.

*DropStuff 3.5 by itself is a 535K DL and possibly won't run on System 6, see the Compatibility Comments in the body of the DS 3.5 page. It may install under 6 tho, giving the Expander access to its translators, it wouldn't need to run. I might test this part out.

[Edit] No, DropStuff 3.5 won't run on System 6, or at least the installer claims it wont, but it will let you install it anyway. Stuffit Expander gets to use the Expander Enhancer software that DropStuff installs. I was wrong about Stuffit 3.5 too, as it can decipher .bin, .hqx & .cpt files without DropStuff being installed, so Ilovetheoldones might be OK with what you're sending as is. All is good.

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I wanted to try whether the 7100 was still running flawlessly anyway.
So it wasnt a big thing to write a floppy.

If your cables are ready, you may want to read the Z-Term docs in advance.
The app is easy enough, but the Terminal is a world of its own. Wink

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Stuffit Lite 3.6 would have been among the next things to install, if the SE was mine. Smile
Not sure about the OS. 6.0.8 was a good one, but 7 might be more versatile.

The letter has been sent today. I made it one disk only, so it will slip through at US Mail, I hope. I might have sent a bit more, but prices go up deliberately for anything larger, heavier than 50g or thicker than 1cm. Lets hope the floppy or its contents aren´t destroyed on the way.

Do you recall a decent Terminal app for Windows by the way?

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Stuffit Lite 3.6 is a good one. It works well in 6 & 7.x - The floppy should be OK. Mailing from here is similar, except you even have to prove your identity if the item is larger than a standard letter size and you are posting to another country (since 2001 here in Aussie-land).

I'm not too familiar with Windows Terminal apps either. Windows used to ship with a Terminal app since Win 3.1 - On XP its called "HyperTerminal". I have never used it. On Windows for terminal type stuff I tend to use the DOS prompt only (cmd.exe) and run Telnet to our network via that and sometimes use the built-in basic FTP com via cmd.exe too.

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Shame on me, I totally forgot about Hyper Terminal.
IIRC, I was using an early version of this one: http://www.ayera.com/teraterm/

Stuffit 3.6 Lite can be found elsewhere on the net, but I placed a copy here: http://www.mediafire.com/?bqdnqa2nism6c1q
As serial LTE 07560000000 should work among others. The app will work without serial too, of course.
With a Z-Term connection the HQX file should be tranferred from PC to Mac without a problem. HQX can be decoded by Stuffit Expander in a two pass procedure. The resulting installer file sets up Stuffit Lite. Stuffit Lite lets you split big files for floppies or encode something to transfer it to a PC again, without loosing the Mac resource fork.

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Thanks for the link to TeraTerm, one I hadn't come across before. It looks to be a telnet client. Will it do serial (VT100 emulation) pc to pc/Mac, too? I see that the ayera page links back to the original earlier versions, which still appear to be available. The 2.3 version for Win95/NT on that earlier Tera Term Home Page, might still work on more recent Windows machines and possibly will be able to obtain terminal emulation with Z-Term. Maybe? It looks like a possibility anyway.

Yes, Stuffit Lite 3.6 (or Stuffit Expander 3.5) will have no problem with .HQX - but if the hqx (or .bin) contains a .SIT created by a newer version of Stuffit there will be a major problem. It will be undecipherable. Unfortunately a lot of of what gets uploaded here is Stuffed using DropStuff 5.5 or newer. So if one hits a brick wall at this point it can be a real sticking point.

Out of habit I use only Stuffit Lite 3.6 for archiving, if the software being stuffed is capable of running on earlier OS's or the 68000 CPU. But thats just me (and a few others), most aren't aware of the issues.

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Got the disk today 24bit. Thanks again! When I put a new hard drive in my SE, I'll test the disk out.

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Hey, thats not a too bad time for delivery. As your new HDD arrives, things will be settled, I hope.
If you get going, you might share your experience and some screenshots maybe.
Not many here are still using a null-modem for file transfer.

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I'll make a guide describing the procedure. It might help people who want to test the process. I'll take some pictures tomorrow.