@bertyboy, I have an Orange Micro PC PCI SCSI card (non-centronix). With the right drivers it *should* work in a Mac?!?!
Let me know if you want it!
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2011, August 31 - 3:41am
#52
2011, August 31 - 6:38am
#53
thx themacmeister, they're only 80MB drives so I'm not expecting to find many treasures on them. And once I get the LCIII connected to a screen I can add it into there. But the Mac - PC monitor adapter does sound ideal.
2011, August 31 - 9:00am
#54
@bertyboy -- send me an email from my sidebar, with your postal details, and I will send both off ASAP!
@MikeTomTom -- got the 2 floppies -- you sir, are a LEGEND. Will try them out after dinner. Fingers crossed!!! Can HD floppy drives READ and WRITE to SD discs, but just not format them? I have my old PC with floppy drive back, that's all.
2011, August 31 - 10:32am
#55
Can HD floppy drives READ and WRITE to SD discs, but just not format them? I have my old PC with floppy drive back, that's all.
Glad you got the disks, Hope you can boot that SE now and now recognize and fix the internal drive, too.
Those floppies are DD not SD - DD could hold 800k, woo-hoo 
Mac formatted... Mac OS X, Linux, Windows OS's, compatible? No - a compatible Classic Mac & OS only. Your PC with a floppy drive will not be able to Read or Write to them, let alone format them 
720k isn't a problem for a PC, but Mac proprietary formatted 800k is.
2011, September 6 - 3:31pm
#56
There might be a chance on a PC equipped with a Catweasel MK 4 + (PCI Card for PC) combined with a 800k Mac drive - that should also do the trick (www.jschoenfeld.com). The other alternative is a Commodore Amiga (A1200 or A4000 with hard disk and CD-ROM for easy transfer would be optimal).
Most of the CD file systems for the Amiga can read Mac CD's and with the correct mountfile for one of the attached DD Disk drives it should also be possible to read and write Mac 800k Disks.
To make things easier there is a package in the internet allowing just that: http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/BetterWB.htm
This includes the needed Macintosh floppy format (HFS) and proper mountlist (MAC0) implementation and a highly enahnced and optimised cdrom filesystem with many new features such as: Long filename support, Macintosh HFS, multiple
session, hybrid (audio+data), and iso 9660 cdrom support.
2011, August 31 - 9:02am
#57
oops, double-posted. my bad
2011, September 1 - 2:04am
#58
MikeTomTom -- thanks for everything. The SE booted to the Desktop, but the keyboard was completely non-functional (I believe it was from a different Mac, as it was WIDE and had a lot of F-Keys and a separate keypad (and a start button). The SE made a HORRIBLE noise when trying to access the hard drive, therefore I assume the HDD is completely shot. Without a keyboard too, this Mac is going home the hard way.
PS. Monitor was fine -- brightness knob (DUH!)
Thanks again MikeTomTom for the wonderful help. I will hang on to these disks, or can send them back if you need them.
2011, September 1 - 6:37am
#59
@themacmeister: You keep 'em (I have the originals). They may come in handy one day
What I remember of my SE from way back when, was that it was noisy due to a really horrible brick of a hard drive. Can't recall the make but it was about 1.5" thick and heavy. It also had thick rubber dampers I guess to try and make it vibrate less than it would otherwise (didn't work too well). It was also 20 MB in capacity! Amazing.
Perhaps bertyboy can spare you one of those SCSI drives he got in his auction? They would have to be better than any original SE drive.
2011, September 1 - 5:38am
#60
@bertyboy -- parcel posted this afternoon... Some notes of interest, either good or bad!
SCSI (2) card is Adaptec, not Orange Micro as stated earlier. This may be a good thing, as Adaptec has better support on Mac (I believe this card will even run in an XServe), and it runs on a PPC X-Series server from IBM! One of the few supported SCSI cards.
I believe Monitor Adaptor is for running Mac monitors off of PCs (not the other way around?!) It goes from a VGA to some 14 pin on the other side (if not more pins). I sent it anyway, as you may wish to run a Mac monitor on a PC someday 
Enjoy, and thank you everyone for the great advice and tools!
2011, September 1 - 8:11am
#61
I am done with this particular Mac. It actually LOOKS like it has been thrown from a building. The simple fact I got to the desktop was amazing... The horrible sound was like a broken fan, but I could hear, and feel the actual real fan, which was nearly silent. The whole thing is borked as far as I'm concerned. I will continue my search for a G4 iMac, or a G5 Cube. Cheers all.
2011, September 1 - 9:34am
#62
If you have plenty of UK power cables to spare, just go to any "Bunnings" store in NZ and purchase the NZ connectors you require (approx. NZ$5.00 each)
I've done that so far, gone through about 19 or 20 plugs from Bunnings already. Now I've still got to do about 18 more Uk plugs for Macs, iPods (my iPod 3rd gen came with a UK plug for charging it), PowerBook, speakers, G4 Cube (unused in original box), Mac Pro, ADC-DVI adapter, 2 G4's, PMG5, SE, about 4 external hard drives, etc, etc. Most are running off Uk 6-way and 4-way extensions, I'm just loathed to spend another $100+ in Bunnings when I hoped to get a few for my $16.10 bargain.
2011, September 1 - 9:51pm
#63
Yes the costs add up when you need more than a few.
Search Trade Me "Computers/Cables-adaptors/Power/" section for "power cable" there are lots.
For example, this could be OK.
2011, September 2 - 1:42am
#64
The sucker in the background looks OK -- http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Apple/Desktops/auction-402649467.htm
2011, September 2 - 1:56am
#65
@themacmeister: When I saw this, I thought of your junkyard find. I think the seller is being overly hopeful tho'.
2011, September 2 - 3:27am
#66
Hey bertyboy, howr the macs looking? Color classic up and going?
Cheers.
2011, September 2 - 5:59am
#67
$120??? It appears I did have the correct keyboard... I believe I shall post my own picture shortly - you will then understand what I mean...
2011, September 2 - 10:39am
#68
@MikeTomTom, yep that sounds good, and 5 is just about right, the rest will probably be fine through the UK extension sockets until I get round to buying NZ equivalents (with Surge protection, etc).
Tried the CC's again tonight with a brand new PRAM battery, no change. Not good. So I'm going to try another keyboard tomorrow,a nd leave one CC plugged in all night (read in an Apple Discussions post that they like 12 hours of power to charge up the capacitors). I still intend to drop off the SE and the other CC sometime soon. Just the one UK power lead to spare, just don't have any more, just one each for PMG5, MP, MDD and DA.
2011, September 2 - 9:22pm
#69
j_damage•69, email me and I'll drop off time permitting.
2011, September 4 - 1:06am
#70
I think we need to set up a new thread, called "bertyboys new macs"
2011, September 4 - 1:36am
#71
Mmm, just home fathers day present (amongst a few) was a long nose Torq-15 ratcheting screwdriver (the only tool you can use to open old Classic Macs). Opened up the SE-30's, well, I got a dud screen before, because the cable was disconnected. The cannibalised one also had an Asante MacCon Ethernet card AND a Kinetics Etherport SE/30 card loose in it. It looks like j_damage•69's SE also has one of these. Didn't know what they were, put it into google and saw one went for $110 last month on ebay UK (17 bids). Well the screwdriver cost me $40, so I got some back, and someone in the office wants my other SE (without the Etherport card) for $50 if i load it with software and HyperCard. Still got to get one SE working. That IIcx motherboard could be an SE/30 motherboard but it doesn't have the tell-tale notches in the left hand side for swinging it out off the chasis. We'll see, I need to get one working at least.
2011, September 7 - 2:34am
#72
@Protoonyx -- that is WAY too much work, and outlay
2011, September 7 - 8:43am
#73
Thanks themacmeister, the package arrived today, everything is in perfect condition. I'll get it set up on Friday - I get to finish work at 3pm, the Auckland CBD is shut down at 3.30pm for the RWC. I could stay and watch the fireworks, but i work hard enough anyway.
So I'll have to get into gear and get the Mac SE and Color Classic to j_damage•69 this weekend.
2011, September 8 - 5:20am
#74
Thanks for the heads up bertyboy! Just let me know and will sort out a time. Might be going away sunday avo.
Cheers.
EDIT: I'll be around the whole weekend now! Starting a new job on monday 
2011, September 8 - 7:20am
#75
I'm interested in knowing how it works out. Everything I thought was correct was incorrect, but the items should be of some use, whether in Macs or PCs... cheers!
2011, September 8 - 10:21am
#76
@j_damage•69, well done. Although it may now mean I have some competition on my trademe bargains. Watching a PM9600, eMac, iMacG4 and a set of Mac Mini G4's just now - it's strange, the photo of the Mini on trademe has a view out a window that looks exactly like the view out my office window, so I reckon they're in the same building up 2 or 3 floors.
TMM, struggling with the DB15-VGA dongle just now, I'll keep going.
2011, September 8 - 11:10am
#77
Hey bertyboy, cheers! Im trialing for a week got a feeling its gonna go down well. Hm I've always wanted an eMac actually, just scared of replacing the HD cos its a nightmare to get into. There always appears to be lots on trademe funnily enough. Always with the default 40GB HD... Figures 
Anyway that would be my next buy!
Have a good one at the world cup opening. I sure am going! (:
EDIT: Just found a G4 Cube power mac, havent heard of those really. OS9 compatible! Too bad im not back down in Dunedin, pickup only.
Also this eMac - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=404604699
Just noticed that 9600! Neat. Now if I had a monitor, man I really need to get my own place haha.
2011, September 9 - 3:42am
#78
Oh, nice eMac, with original box, always a good sign that the owners have looked after it.
There's another eMac, for $1 still, in Onehunga, I'm sure I know the owner, they explained to me they had a problem with their Mac and bought a new Sony laptop. From what they said (and I asked a few questions), it sounded like it was just some cooked RAM. If it's still under $20 next week I'll bid on it.
Fingers crossed on those Mac Minis in my building, if I can win the auction on this one, I'll try to get them all for a bargain price, screens, keyboard, mice, etc. when I go to pick it up.
2011, September 9 - 10:30pm
#79
Yeah looks pretty decent! I may hold off on the auctions for now though, need bit more store space.
Oh sweet, that also sounds good. Perhaps I may be lucky for u to drop me off an eMac
What OS do mac minis run? Do they just need an external monitor of some sort? They look pretty interesting.
Also, when do you think you could drop those macs off? No rush though, just when you have time!
Cheers. Time for some sleep, party party central really got a a hold of me... GG from the all blacks and sweet opening!
2011, September 8 - 2:31pm
#80
@themacmeister
Not for me - I have the Amiga 1200 right here beside my iMac (I have put the A1200 into a DIY housing together with a 18" TFT to mimic an iMac in black, complete with the Amiga ball instead of the Apple) - but I can not test it as I have no 800k Mac Disks anymore - all I can say so far is that I can format 800k Mac Disks on it + reading Mac CDs is no problem.
2011, September 9 - 11:39pm
#81
Was thinking if you win the eMac we could drop it off some time.
The Mac Minis come with a display, but I think they need OSX 10.3.7 as a minimum. They're from 2005. I'm sure they'd be great for Basilisk II and vMac. It's a great Mac, just let down by the underpowered video card. They still got for £100 back in the UK as a poor-man's AppleTV v1 - so you just start Front Row and play your iTunes movies straight onto your TV.
Emailed you about dropping the Macs off, in the next few hours, if you're OK with that.
2011, September 10 - 12:06am
#82
Emailed you but not sure how to get them. Sounds good though, you can drop em off later.
Thanks again.
2011, September 10 - 12:12am
#83
on my way now, if you're there, you're there, if not we'll try again on the way home.
2011, September 10 - 12:19am
#84
Im here. See you soon!
2011, September 10 - 1:46am
#85
Hi again, thanks very much for dropping the macs off! Just a question, you mentioned that you had a UK plug. That came in the bag, but was there supposed be something that goes with it? Might be easier if I got out and buy an NZ power cord.
2011, September 10 - 3:38am
#86
You mean a UK universal plu adapter ? Yes, but I only have 2 of those, and I got them in the UK. Couldn't understand why you wanted a UK plug, thought you might cut the NZ plug off an old appliance and replace the UK plug on that cable.
Good luck on Monday.
2011, September 10 - 3:47am
#87
Yeah the adapter, it looks old. Any chance of buying an extension to plug into a regular socket? Guess I could do some rewiring as well though. I'll hopefully have some NZ plugs heading up my way. Hm when did I say that I wanted the UK plug?
2011, September 10 - 9:36am
#88
Hey found this site for color classic RAM - http://www.pcmemorystore.com/Apple-Macintosh-Color_Classic-ram.htm
What do you think? Has the 4MB RAM already in there been removed? Even though its fried.
Thanks again.
2011, September 10 - 11:13am
#89
Probably need to experiment with the CC first, before spending more money on it, I;m in the same situation with mine. Don't know if the SE extra RAM can be used in the CC, or it may be too slow. Sorry can't help with the adapters, `i need mine and they're like $20 each, more than I paid for the 7 Macs.
You can easily slide the mobo out of the CC by opening the back panel. The CC powers up with the mobo out, so the electrics are good, but there must be an issue with the CC RAM or Video RAM. I've spent 2 weeks searching google and Apple Discussions on how I can fix either and the SE/30. AppleFritter also had a lot of idea, none have worked for me either so far.
2011, September 10 - 11:41am
#90
Okay, first off I may try pulling some of the RAM out of the SE first. But i'd like a good play with it for starters! Gonna go buy an adapter tomorrow. Hmm interesting, shame you've gotten to no point. Its in such a good condition really. I'm prepared to spend some dollars on it in future, once ive had bit of a poke around. They seem pretty neat
2011, September 11 - 3:46am
#91
Alright, I just brought an adapter and tried the SE/30. Powers on nicely, everything seems fine! What would be a good way to reformat the HD and reinstall a system, also transfer some software?
As for the color classic, its missing a couple of things. I managed to get into the back and stick a PRAM battery in. The other things are the RAM, inc the built in ones. And on the motherboard itself theres some kind of chip missing? I'm guessing it has to do with the video? Keen to try some stuff out though.
2011, September 11 - 5:43am
#92
The CC comes RAM and Video RAM built-in and I think the slots add extra of each.
The SE just needs a couple of floppies with the OS you require and something like Disk Tools. Good thing it has a 1,4M floppy drive, you can load a few 1.4M floppies with downloads using a PC. Others may be able to help with getting Mac boot floppy images onto a floppy on a PC.
Bidding on some iMacs / Mac Minis / PMG5's this week so let me know if you're bidding on anything.
2011, September 11 - 6:40am
#93
What do you think bout that Power Macintosh 9600/300? Would it be easy to get a display for it? The seller doesnt know a great deal bout it.
Too bad I dont own a PC, have to find some other way. Perhaps an external floppy on my macbook pro?
EDIT: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Macintosh-Color-Classic-132MB-RAM-18GB-Dri...
Looks prime!
As for the CC its quite a mystery really.. Replacement motherboard?
2011, September 11 - 7:49am
#94
PM9600/300, yeah, $100 and we don't even know if it works. Curses, I turned down the offer of one on eBay UK for $60 with everything (including monitor) before I left. All I would need is a Mac DB15-VGA video adaptor (like for my LCIII and any VGA display - like the ones that come with the Mac Mini.
I don't need so much to pay $100, If I need OS9 I have two PMG4's and a Cube. If I need OS8.6 or OS8.1 I have Sheepshaver on a top-end Mac Pro. Or Basilisk II on a dual PMG5.
Went for the two iMac G4's in Auckland, didn't get them. Maybe next week.
2011, September 11 - 8:39am
#95
@bertyboy: $100 for a PM9600/300 sounds a tad too much... but then I'm feeling like a right Lord Muck right now - Just got on eBay a Beige Beast. A maxed out ex-Beige G3 for $20. An ex-G3 'cause it now sports a Sonnet G4 400MHz, W00T!!! Plus all the slots are filled, USB, Firewire, Rage Pro 128 (16MB) - Internally, full Video in and out (Wings card), 750 MB RAM and 60 GB drive and a R/W Pioneer DVD, Mac OS 9.1... said to be all in good working order.
Can't wait to get it home. $20 - pinch me 
2011, September 11 - 9:36am
#96
Well done. These are the prizes for scouring eBay / TradeMe every day. I used to get lots of £0.99 bargains (including one B&W G3) in the UK, not here.
2011, September 11 - 10:09am
#97
oh, where did you get them? ebay? maybe i can snap up some bargains. most of my older macs are either my dads old ones, of i got for free
2011, September 11 - 8:38am
#98
This thread is getting out of hand
2011, September 13 - 9:40am
#99
Did anyone desperately want these ?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Vintage/auction-407087625.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Vintage/auction-407088012.htm
2011, September 13 - 10:43am
#100
hmmm, heard of Nibble, never heard of A+
2011, November 14 - 5:45pm
#101
My latest bargain:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/apple/desktops/auction-421505420.htm
ANOTHER Digital Audio, 466MHz, 512MB PC133, 30GB, CD-RW. Works fine, just needed a new battery. Although I'm going to cannibalise it anyway, use the RAM in a different DA and put 1GB of PC100 RAM into this one, should be fine in OS9, it's not until you get to OSX that it needs to be PC133.
Wish others would share their bargains.